Ancient Formulas
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Hybrid Ratio
Hybrid is the best. It is so OP. Everyone who's smart knows that. But why? Here's why:
- Idle doesn't get Juggernaut combos, nor does it benefit from skills. It won't get you far into the game.
- Active doesn't insta-kill long enough.
That being said, your ratio should not be too high or too low. However, it should start low in the beginning, and go up higher near the end, as your skill duration starts too exceed their cooldown, (referred to as infinite skills,) your Juggernaut effect becomes stronger, and your transcendent power becomes stronger. Here's a table helping you decide what the ratio should be between Siyalatas and Fragsworth:
Current state | Fragsworth/ Siyalatas ratio |
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You are at the beginning of a transcension. | 0 |
You have at least 1 in-game Auto Clicker, (to help you click monsters,) and you have Siyalatas over level 2.000e5. | 0.5 |
You have infinite Lucky Strikes. | 1 |
You have infinite energized Lucky Strikes. | 2 |
Formulas
Now that we know what ratio we should using, we can work out the levels of the rest of the ancients.
Here is a table, with a few exceptions
Ancient | Formula |
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Argaiv | max(Fragsworth, Siya) |
Atman | 2.832 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.416 × ln(alpha) - 1.416 × ln(1/3) - 6.613* |
Berserker | Bubos - 3** |
Bhaal | Fragsworth |
Bubos | 2.8 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.4 × ln(2) - 5.94 |
Chawedo | Bubos - 3** |
Chronos | 2.75 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 5.1 |
Dogcog | 2.844 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.422 × ln(100/99) - 7.232 |
Dora | 2.877 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.4365 × ln(1/99) - 9.63 |
Energon | Bubos - 3** |
Fortuna | 2.875 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.4375 × ln(1/9) - 9.3 |
Hecatoncheir | Bubos - 3** |
Juggernaut | Fragsworth^{0.8} |
Kleptos | Bubos - 3** |
Kumawakamaru | 2.88 × ln(max(Fragsworth, Siya)) - 1.44 × ln(alpha) - 1.44 × ln(1.25) - 10.42* |
Libertas | 0.926 × Siya*** |
Mammon | 0.926 × max(Fragsworth, Siya)*** |
Mimzee | 0.926 × max(Fragsworth, Siya)*** |
Morgulis | (max(Fragsworth, Siya))^{2} |
Nogardnit | Lib^{0.8}**** |
Revolc | Bubos - 3** |
Sniperino | Bubos - 3** |
Solomon | (max(Fragsworth, Siya))^{0.8 } × Alpha^{0.4} |
Vaagur | Bubos - 3** |
* Alpha = 1.4067×ln(1+TP)/ln(⌈AcensionZone÷500.0×0.005⌉+1.14)
** There is no hard Math so far, as no one was willing to do it, so these are just possible levels.
*** If you can get your current best hero past level 8000, but can not afford the next hero, then the ratio should be 0.905.
**** It should be noted that Nogardnit's level should be based on Libertas and not Mammon or Mimzee, because of the fact that it's an idle ancient, and once your Fragsworth/ Siyalatas ratio is over 1, Mammon and Mimzee will be higher than Libertas, and the optimal formula for Nogardnit based on an idle Gold ancient ( Libertas happens to be the only other one}} is Libertas^{0.8}.